
The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies is proud to present The Aerospace Advantage, with Heather ”Lucky” Penney as the host. Every week, Lucky takes listeners into the world of aerospace power and help the audience understand what it takes to fly and fight in the sky, while also protecting America’s interests in space. Whether talking to top generals, standing on a flight line full of combat aircraft, looking at a rocket being prepared for launch, or hearing from those who have laid it all on the line in defense of the nation—this podcast will afford unprecedented access and insight into where the combat aerospace community is going and why.
Episodes

Saturday Sep 18, 2021
Episode 40 - The Royal Australian Air Force: Command Perspective
Saturday Sep 18, 2021
Saturday Sep 18, 2021
Episode 40 – The Royal Australian Air Force: Command Perspective
Episode Summary:
In episode 40 of the Mitchell Institute’s Aerospace Advantage podcast, The Royal Australian Air Force: Command Perspective, hear from Chief of the Air Force Air Marshal Mel Hupfeld as he discusses opportunities and challenges facing airpower and spacepower in the Pacific. Allies and partners are critical to mission success in today’s world, with the U.S.-Australian partnership especially crucial. Air Marshal Hupfeld discusses future operating concepts such as manned-unmanned teaming, current programs like the F-35, and important missions like airbase defense.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Air Marshal Mel Hupfeld, Chief of Air Force, The Royal Australian Air Force
Guest: Maj Gen (ret.) Larry “Stutz” Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Sep 11, 2021
Episode 39 - 9/11 20 Years Later: 3 Airmen Reflect
Saturday Sep 11, 2021
Saturday Sep 11, 2021
Episode 39 – 9/11 20 Years Later: 3 Airmen Reflect
Episode Summary:
In episode 39 of the Mitchell Institute's Aerospace Advantage podcast 9/11 20 Years Later: 3 Airmen Reflect, host John "Slick" Baum speaks to three individuals who found themselves thrust into crisis none could have imagined as they began their day. Gen John Jumper, USAF (ret) came to the Pentagon that Tuesday to serve his first full day as Chief of Staff of the Air Force. Lt Gen Dave Deptula, USAF (Ret) was working on the Quadrennial Defense Review in his Pentagon office two corridors away from where American Airlines Flight 77 impacted. Heather Penney was a young lieutenant who launched in her F-16 to provide air defense of the capital region and later escorted Air Force One back to Andrews Air Force Base later that evening. Memories of that day will stay with these airmen for the rest of their lives. Join us for their recollections of the day America was attacked.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Gen (ret.) John Jumper, 17th Chief of Staff of the US Air Force
Guest: Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Sep 04, 2021
Episode 38 - Adversary Insights: Understanding Chinese Airpower
Saturday Sep 04, 2021
Saturday Sep 04, 2021
Episode 38 – Adversary Insight: Understanding Chinese Airpower
Episode Summary:
In episode 38 of the Mitchell Institute's Aerospace Advantage podcast Adversary Insight: Understanding Chinese Airpower, host John "Slick" Baum is joined by Dr. Brendan Mulvaney and Ken Allen of Air University's China Aerospace Studies Institute (CASI), Cristina Garafola of RAND, and Daniel Rice of the Mitchell Institute to better understand the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). As Sun Tzu once said, "Know thy enemy and know yourself, and you need not fear the outcome of one hundred battles." This is the first in a series of episodes that will explore the China threat in multiple dimensions.
You can find Ken Allen and Cristina Garafola's book 70 Years of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force here.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest host: Daniel Rice, Senior Analyst, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Dr. Brendan Mulvaney, Director, China Aerospace Studies Institute
Guest: Ken Allen, Former Director of Research, China Aerospace Studies Institute
Guest: Cristina Garafola, Associate Policy Researcher, the RAND Corporation
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Saturday Aug 28, 2021
Episode 37 - Afghanistan Assessment: The Rendezvous
Saturday Aug 28, 2021
Saturday Aug 28, 2021
Episode 37 – Afghanistan Assessment: The Rendezvous
Episode Summary:
In episode 37 of the Aerospace Advantage, Afghanistan Assessment: The Rendezvous, John "Slick" Baum engages with the Mitchell Institute team to discuss the broader events surrounding America’s longest war. This is a tough one, with many members of the team having served in the theater, have worked on the war from the policy vantage, and have known people who’ve paid the ultimate price this conflict. To see the images of the collapse over the past few weeks has been exceedingly difficult. In the wake of this historic failure, it’s also important to look at what happened from a strategic perspective. The dedication to duty at the individual and unit level during this conflict was second to none, but the strategic decisions made over the past twenty years often fell short. It will take years to understand what happened and why, but this conversation marks the start of that assessment.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Doug Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Daniel Rice, Research Analyst, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Aug 21, 2021
Episode 36 - Speed is Life: Agile Software in Air Combat
Saturday Aug 21, 2021
Saturday Aug 21, 2021
Episode 36 – Speed is Life: Agile Software in Air Combat
Episode Summary:
In episode 36 of the Aerospace Advantage, Speed is Life: Agile Software in Air Combat, John Baum engages with Lt Col Mike Benitez, Director of Staff at the 53rd Wing; Dr. Jimmy “Rev” Jones, a fighter pilot-PhD; and Heather Penney of the Mitchell Institute to discuss a topic few of us consider—the “ones and zeros” of software that actually operate the jet. Fighter pilots have a saying that speed is life, and it applies to everything from the speed at which you enter a dogfight, fly a low-level ingress, shoot a missile, or exit a threat ring. And when trying to achieve a qualitative advantage over an adversary, we often think about how fast we can field a better jet, a more lethal missile, or a bigger bomb. But today, so many of our combat capabilities rely upon software. The advantage is in the algorithm. And software can change much faster than hardware – which means that the ability to change software to adapt to the ever-changing battlespace will be key to victory in future warfare.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Col Mike Benitez, Director of Staff at the 53rd Wing, USAF
Guest: Lt Col (ret.) Dr. Jimmy “Rev” Jones, DARPA, USAF
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Aug 14, 2021
Episode 35 - Logistics Under Attack: A Conversation with AMC Commander Gen Van Ovost
Saturday Aug 14, 2021
Saturday Aug 14, 2021
Episode 35 – Logistics Under Attack: A Conversation with AMC Commander Gen Van Ovost
Episode Summary:
In episode 35 of the Aerospace Advantage, Logistics Under Attack: A Conversation with AMC Commander Gen Van Ovost, John Baum and Mitchell Institute dean Lt Gen (ret) Dave Deptula discuss what it will take to sustain tomorrow’s military with Air Force Air Mobility Command Commander General Jackie Van Ovost. No military force can operate for any period of time without a robust flow of supplies. Whether discussing munitions, spare parts, food, fuel, or medical items—the reality is that the scale, scope, and pace of combat operations fundamentally relies on logistics. With the return of great power competition, all elements of our military enterprise are at extreme risk of attack and the results could prove disastrous if we don't address adequate capability, capacity and operating concepts for the new threat environment. Logistics is at the top of this list and air mobility is a key part of the solution.
Related:
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Gen Jackie Van Ovost, Commander of Air Mobility Command, USAF
Guest: Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Aug 07, 2021
Saturday Aug 07, 2021
Episode 34 – The Future of Air Force Pilot Training: A Crisis That Demands a Solution
Episode Summary:
In episode 34 of the Aerospace Advantage, The Future of Air Force Pilot Training: A Crisis That Demands a Solution, host John Baum delves into a key challenge facing the Air Force: the service has too few pilots and needs to produce a new generation of talent fast. In discussions with 19th Air Force commander Maj Gen Craig Wills, the leader who oversees the majority of Air Force pilot training, and members of the Mitchell team, we discuss what it takes to produce an Air Force pilot—what elements are timeless and areas where new approaches and technology are offering areas for progress. The imperative for this is simple: the demand for airpower is on the rise, but without enough trained pilots, airplanes sitting on the ramp are bricks. It takes highly trained airmen to strap in and fly the missions. The Air Force has been stuck with too few pilots for too many years now and it’s really causing problems. It’s time to change the equation, but we need to do so prudently.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Maj Gen Craig D. Wills, Commander of the 19th Air Force, USAF
Guest: Maj Gen (ret.) Larry Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Jul 31, 2021
Episode 33 – A-10s, F-35s, and C-130s from the Congressional Vantage: The Rendezvous
Saturday Jul 31, 2021
Saturday Jul 31, 2021
Episode 33 – A-10s, F-35s, and C-130s from the Congressional Vantage: The Rendezvous
Episode Summary:
In episode 33 of the Aerospace Advantage, A-10s, F-35s, and C-130s from the Congressional Vantage: The Rendezvous, the Mitchell Institute team discusses the latest developments from Capitol Hill. Given the compressed schedule of this year’s budget process, the debates are intense and the decisions are executing rapidly. There is a lot in play this year as Congress seeks to help the Air Force and Space Force modernize, deal with ongoing operations, and manage challenging fiscal realities. Join us for our inside take on the latest developments.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: The Honorable Matt Donovan, Director, The Mitchell Institute Space Power Advantage Research Center
Guest: Maj Gen (ret.) Larry "Stutz" Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Col (ret.) Mark “Gonzo” Gunzinger, Director of Future Concepts and Capabilities Assessments, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Jul 24, 2021
Saturday Jul 24, 2021
Episode 32 – From the Ostfriesland to the B-21: Billy Mitchell and Modern Aerospace Power
Episode Summary:
In episode 32 of the Aerospace Advantage, From the Ostfriesland to the B-21: Billy Mitchell and Modern Aerospace Power, we mark the 100th anniversary of Brigadier General Billy Mitchell and the Air Service’s First Provisional Air Brigade sinking the captured German battleship Ostfriesland. While that accomplishment is incredibly significant unto itself, this anniversary also gives us an opportunity to consider Mitchell’s accomplishments with a broader lens and think about what it all means today. Mitchell’s vision fundamentally changed what it means to project effective military power. The results we achieved in World War II, the Cold War, Desert Storm, and beyond are inextricably tied to this pioneering leader. We consider this impact and what Mitchell would think about today’s Air Force and Space Force.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj Gen (ret.) Larry Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Douglas Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Jul 17, 2021
Episode 31 - F-35 Lightning II with Allies and Partners: Pilots‘ Perspective
Saturday Jul 17, 2021
Saturday Jul 17, 2021
Episode 31 – F-35 Lightning II with Allies and Partners: Pilots' Perspective
Episode Summary:
In episode 31 of the Aerospace Advantage, F-35 Lightning II with Allies and Partners: Pilots’ Perspective, join host John “Slick” Baum as he speaks to a selection of international pilots who are taking to the sky in the F-35 Lightning II. A core facet of the F-35’s design from day one involved seamless integration with allies and partners. It was always about bringing the advantages of 5th gen combat airpower to a broad team. Today, we are realizing that vision. History demonstrates that nations don’t engage in large scale warfare in a vacuum. So, the way we build and employ airpower capabilities needs to reflect that. Hear from Squadron Leader Stewart Campbell of the Royal Air Force, Lt Col Maurizio “Driver” De Guida of the Italian Air Force, and Lt Col Gert Barend “Razor” Van Woerden of the Royal Netherlands Air Force about what it’s like to bring 5th generation combat aviation to their respective air forces.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Col Maurizio “Driver” De Guida, Italian Air Force
Guest: Sqn Ldr Stewart “Stew” Campbell, Royal Air Force
Guest: Lt Col Gert Barend “Razor” Van Woerden, Royal Netherlands Air Force
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