
The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies is proud to present The Aerospace Advantage, with Heather ”Lucky” Penney as the host. Every week, Lucky takes listeners into the world of aerospace power and help the audience understand what it takes to fly and fight in the sky, while also protecting America’s interests in space. Whether talking to top generals, standing on a flight line full of combat aircraft, looking at a rocket being prepared for launch, or hearing from those who have laid it all on the line in defense of the nation—this podcast will afford unprecedented access and insight into where the combat aerospace community is going and why.
The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies is proud to present The Aerospace Advantage, with Heather ”Lucky” Penney as the host. Every week, Lucky takes listeners into the world of aerospace power and help the audience understand what it takes to fly and fight in the sky, while also protecting America’s interests in space. Whether talking to top generals, standing on a flight line full of combat aircraft, looking at a rocket being prepared for launch, or hearing from those who have laid it all on the line in defense of the nation—this podcast will afford unprecedented access and insight into where the combat aerospace community is going and why.
Episodes

Saturday Jan 08, 2022
Saturday Jan 08, 2022
Episode 58 – Conversation with General Kevin Chilton: Fighter Pilot, Astronaut, and Commander
Episode Summary:
In episode 58 of the Aerospace Advantage podcast, Conversation with General Kevin Chilton: Fighter Pilot, Astronaut, and Commander, host John Baum engages with one of the most interesting, compelling aerospace leaders of our time. General Chilton’s career covers an immense range of experiences, any one of which would mark a highly successful tenure. He attended the Air Force Academy, flew RF-4s and F-15s, and then moved to the test pilot community. He later served as an astronaut at NASA—going into space three times, including as commander of STS-76. He also served as the Deputy Program Manager for Operations for the International Space Station Program. After his time at NASA, he came back to the Air Force, where he rose through multiple command positions, including Commander of Air Force Space Command and Commander of US Strategic Command. That’s a lot to fit into a 34-year career in uniform, nor has he slowed down after retiring from the Air Force. He’s been involved in several arenas—ranging from work with FFRDCs and national labs, to industry. General Chilton holds Mitchell Institute’s Explorer Chair for Space Warfighting Studies. Join us for an in-depth conversation about these experiences and a discussion regarding Gen Chilton’s vision for Mitchell Institute’s Spacepower Advantage Center of Excellence.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col (Ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Gen (Ret.) Kevin Chilton, Explorer Chair, The Mitchell Institute Spacepower Advantage Center of Excellence
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Thursday Dec 30, 2021
Thursday Dec 30, 2021
Episode 57 – Into the Wild Blue Yonder: Mitchell Institute Flightline (and Space Launch) Stories Part II
Episode Summary:
In episode 57 of the Aerospace Advantage podcast, Into the Wild Blue Yonder: Mitchell Institute Flightline (and Space Launch) Stories Part II, our team members recount some of their most memorable experiences in the air and space. You normally hear us talking about policy and budget issues, but over the holiday season we decided it was time to kick back and reflect upon the high adventures of past years. So join us to hear from Gen (Ret.) Kevin Chilton, Maj Gen (Ret.) Larry Stutzriem and Mark Gunzinger as they discuss some of their more memorable experiences. Ever wonder what it’s like to launch in the Space Shuttle? Did you know Stutz engaged Soviet fighters over the Pacific? And what about the time Gonzo flew a bomber mission that lasted over 33 hours and nearly lost it all in the final moments of the flight? This is a series of stories that you won't want to miss. Happy holidays and thanks for listening to the Aerospace Advantage.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col (Ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Gen (Ret.) Kevin Chilton, Explorer Chair, The Mitchell Institute Spacepower Advantage Research Center
Guest: Maj Gen (Ret.) Larry “Stutz” Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Col (Ret.) Mark “Gonzo” Gunzinger, Director for Future Concepts and Capabilities Assessments, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Thursday Dec 23, 2021
Episode 56 - Into the Wild Blue Yonder: Mitchell Institute Flightline Stories Part 1
Thursday Dec 23, 2021
Thursday Dec 23, 2021
Episode 56 – Into the Wild Blue Yonder: Mitchell Institute Flightline Stories Part 1
Episode Summary:
In episode 56 of the Aerospace Advantage podcast, Into the Wild Blue Yonder: Mitchell Institute Flightline Stories Part I, our team members recount some of their most memorable experiences flying and fighting. You normally hear us talking about policy and budget issues, but over the holiday season, we decided it was time to kick back and reflect upon the high adventures of past years. So join us to hear about what it’s like to land an F-15 on fire, provide close air support in danger-close situations, and strafing enemy forces. In part one of this two-part series, you’ll hear from Lt Gen (Ret.) David Deptula, Heather "Lucky" Penney, and your host John "Slick" Baum. In part 2, we will visit with Gen (Ret.) Kevin Chilton, Maj Gen (Ret.) Larry Stutzriem and Mark Gunzinger as they discuss some of their more memorable experiences, including launching in the Space Shuttle, dogfighting the Soviets over the Pacific, and flying a bomber mission that lasted over 40 hours and nearly lost it all in the final moments of the flight. Happy holidays and thanks for listening to the Aerospace Advantage. This is a series of stories that you won't want to miss.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col (Ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Gen (Ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Lt Col (Ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (Ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Dec 18, 2021
Episode 55 - Russia‘s Military Strategy in Europe
Saturday Dec 18, 2021
Saturday Dec 18, 2021
Episode 55 – Russia’s Military Strategy in Europe
Episode Summary:
In Episode 55 of the Aerospace Advantage Podcast, Russia’s Military Strategy in Europe, host John "Slick" Baum is joined by Justin Bronk and Samuel Cranny-Evans of the Royal United Services Institute and the Mitchell Institute's own Heather Penney to dive into Russian strategy. We've spent a lot of time on the Aerospace Advantage talking about China, but Russia poses an equally concerning threat to the US and our EUCOM allies--and the two threats have distinct differences. Whether it be military intervention in Ukraine, Syria, or Georgia, Russia's conventional military might is still strong, and Putin is becoming increasingly aggressive in wielding it to achieve his objectives. So, to understand the threat that Russia poses, there's no better perspective than from the strategic thinkers at RUSI who watch in their own backyard Russia move the chess pieces.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col (Ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Justin Bronk, Airpower Research Fellow, Military Sciences at Royal United Services Institute
Guest: Samuel Cranny-Evans, Research Analyst, Royal United Services Institute
Guest: Maj (Ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Dec 11, 2021
Episode 54 - MQ-9 Reimagined: Tomorrow‘s Reaper Missions
Saturday Dec 11, 2021
Saturday Dec 11, 2021
Episode 54 – MQ-9 Reimagined: Tomorrow’s Reaper Missions
Episode Summary:
In episode 54 of the Aerospace Advantage podcast MQ-9 Reimagined: Tomorrow’s Reaper Missions, host John "Slick" Baum talks to 49th Wing Commander Col Ryan Keeney, Mitchell Institute’s own Maj Gen (Ret.) Larry Stutzriem, and Bryan Clark of the Hudson Institute to explore how the MQ-9 will meet new mission demands. Bottom line, the Reaper attained legendary status over Afghanistan and Iraq, but its career is far from over. In fact, current combatant command requests far outstrip available supply. Looking to the future, as defense leaders increasingly focus on peer threats like China and Russia, it’s important to explore how the MQ-9 will expand its mission applications. Simply put, there is tremendous demand for the sensor-shooter capabilities the aircraft brings to the fight. It’s time to reimagine how the MQ-9 will engage in this new realm.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col (Ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Col Ryan Keeney, Commander, 49th Wing, USAF
Guest: Maj Gen (Ret.) Larry “Stutz” Stutzreim, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Bryan Clark, Senior Fellow and Director of the Center for Defense Concepts and Technology, The Hudson Institute
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Saturday Dec 04, 2021
Saturday Dec 04, 2021
Episode 53 – F-22, F-15EX, F-35, NGAD, and Beyond: Fighter Force Recommendations for the Next Decade
Episode Summary:
In episode 53 of the Aerospace advantage podcast F-22, F-15EX, F-35, NGAD, and Beyond: Fighter Force Recommendations for the Next Decade, Host John “Slick” Baum and members of the Mitchell Institute team explore a U.S. Air Force fighter force that is in crisis and look to future solutions. After three decades of canceled, curtailed, and delayed investment in modernization, the nation now finds itself in major need of these capabilities with far too few advanced fighter aircraft to meet demand. This isn’t just an Air Force problem—it affects every aspect of U.S. national security. No form of power projection in any domain is viable without control of the sky. Ships at sea, forces on the ground, space control centers, cyber facilities, logistics hubs, and more just won’t make it when hit with high-intensity attacks from the sky. And we haven’t had to think like this in decades, but we are now at that merge given where China and Russia and pushing. Learn more about these challenges and proposed vectors for the future.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col (Ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Maj (Ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Lt Gen (Ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Doug Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Col (Ret.) Mark “Gonzo” Gunzinger, Director of Future Concepts and Capabilities Assessments, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Nov 27, 2021
Saturday Nov 27, 2021
Episode 52 – Congress and Defense, Russian Satellite Shootdown, and China’s Nuclear Stance: The Rendezvous
Episode Summary:
In episode 52 of the Aerospace advantage podcast Congress and Defense, Russian Satellite Shootdown, and China’s Nuclear Stance: The Rendezvous, host John “Slick” Baum welcomes the Mitchell team to discuss stories that have dominated the news cycle. After stalling out for months, it looks like the Senate’s version of the National Defense Authorization Act is headed for the floor. What should we be looking for in this bill? Next, as if things weren’t bad enough with the Chinese launch of the fractional orbital bombardment system, we’ve got the Russians blowing up a satellite, filling several orbits with thousands of fragments of debris. Finally, General Hyten, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, discussed what many of us have long suspected: China’s nuclear build-up is about gaining a first-strike capability. These are incredibly important topics, so make sure you join us for this episode.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col (ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Doug Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Col (ret.) Mark “Gonzo” Gunzinger, Director of Future Concepts and Capabilities Assessments, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Chris Stone, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute Space Power Advantage Research Center
Guest: Daniel Rice, Research Analyst, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Nov 20, 2021
Episode 51 - Astronaut Jared Isaacman: Inspiration4 and Innovation in Space
Saturday Nov 20, 2021
Saturday Nov 20, 2021
Episode 51 – Astronaut Jared Isaacman: Inspiration4 and Innovation in Space
Episode Summary:
In episode 51 of the Aerospace advantage podcast Astronaut Jared Isaacman: Inspiration4 and Innovation in Space, host John "Slick" Baum welcomes onto the podcast Shift4 CEO and Inspiration4 mission commander, astronaut Jared Isaacman. Private industry is making incredible strides in space, and Inspiration4 was a landmark moment, the first all-civilian mission to space. Missions like these are not just for show, they mark a growing trend of competition and innovation in the space industry that we haven't seen since the Cold War, but there are still some barriers holding us back. Today we are going to explore how the Inspiration4 mission and the private space industry are driving the radical changes that we need to stay relevant as we enter into a new phase of near-peer competition in the final frontier, space.
You can find the Aerospace Advantage patch giveaway here.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col (ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Astronaut Jared Isaacman, CEO, Shift4 and Inspiration4 Commander
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Saturday Nov 13, 2021
Episode 50 - Building the Next Gen Space Enterprise
Saturday Nov 13, 2021
Saturday Nov 13, 2021
Episode 50 – Building the Next Gen Space Enterprise
Episode Summary:
In Episode 50 of the Aerospace Advantage podcast, Building the Next Gen Space Enterprise, host John “Slick” Baum speaks to a number of key leaders in the Space Force and industry to discuss how and why new actors are entering the space business. Given all the recent activity in space—whether discussing the explosion of small satellites or new launch players like Space X, Virgin Galactic, or Blue Origin—it’s hard to remember that the space industry was once one the realm of a select few companies. To put it bluntly, the barriers to entry were incredible and the notion that start-ups or outside companies could enter this realm seemed impossible. But then something happened. Several years ago, the government signaled they wanted to broaden the market for players in the launch sector as well as those who built the satellites. It wasn’t long after that decision that we saw a tidal wave of activity. And it’s fundamentally reshaped what it means to go to space, what we do when we have assets up there, and how we envision the domain. Today we are going to take a few steps back in history and talk to a number of key players who have lived through this journey—from both the government and industry vantage. We are going to explore what drove the government to begin pursuing this course and what motivated companies to want to engage. It’s an incredible story. We are going to look back years from now and realize this was a key inflection point that fundamentally shaped how America and the world related to space.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col (ret.) John “Slick” Baum, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Chuck Beames, Executive Chairman of York Space Systems and Chairman of the SmallSat Alliance
Chuck Beames’ Twitter handle: @chuckbeames
Guest: Brig Gen Steven Whitney, Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Space Acquisition and Integration
Guest: Bradley Cheetham, CEO and President, Advanced Space
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Saturday Nov 06, 2021
Episode 49 - China‘s Global Intent and Tactics: Adversary Insights
Saturday Nov 06, 2021
Saturday Nov 06, 2021
Episode 49 – China’s Global Intent and Tactics: Adversary Insights
Episode Summary:
In Episode 49 of the Aerospace Advantage podcast China’s Global Intent and Tactics: Adversary Insights, host John “Slick” Baum is joined by Dr. Brendan Mulvaney of the China Aerospace Studies Institute (CASI), the former Director of Research at CASI. Ken Allen, and Mitchell Institute research analyst Daniel Rice to discuss the big question on everyone’s mind, “What is China’s global intent, and what are they doing to achieve these goals?” You see it in the news all of the time, China is fielding a new capability, or chartering vectors into a new area of the globe, so we need to make sense of it all and frame the way that we think about China. Today, the team explains what are China’s fundamental goals, and sheds some light on Chinese actions in the South China Sea, around Taiwan, and the Chinese military buildup.
You can find episode 18 of the podcast with Col Keith "Ghost" Butler and the B-2 here.
You can find our last episode on the PLAAF here.
Credits:
Host: Douglas Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Dr. Brendan Mulvaney, Director, The China Aerospace Studies Institute
Guest: Ken Allen, former Director of Research, The China Aerospace Studies Institute
Guest: Daniel Rice, Research Analyst, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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