
The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies is proud to present The Aerospace Advantage, with Heather ”Lucky” Penney as the host. Every week, Lucky takes listeners into the world of aerospace power and help the audience understand what it takes to fly and fight in the sky, while also protecting America’s interests in space. Whether talking to top generals, standing on a flight line full of combat aircraft, looking at a rocket being prepared for launch, or hearing from those who have laid it all on the line in defense of the nation—this podcast will afford unprecedented access and insight into where the combat aerospace community is going and why.
Episodes

Saturday Oct 23, 2021
Episode 45 - F-35: Getting Healthy, or Hard Broke? Part 2
Saturday Oct 23, 2021
Saturday Oct 23, 2021
Episode 45 – F-35: Getting Healthy, or Hard Broke? Part 2
Episode Summary:
In episode 45 of the Aerospace Advantage podcast, F-35: Getting Healthy, or Hard Broke? Part 2, Mitchell Institute explores the status of America’s newest fighter engine with top experts from Pratt and Whitney. Fighter aircraft are generally viewed by the general public as airframes—their fuselages, wings, and tails give them unmistakable, unique shapes. However, it takes incredibly sophisticated jet engine technology to bring these airplanes to life. The F-35’s engine is a game-changer—embodying state-of-the-art materials and design techniques that have revolutionized jet propulsion. The bottom line, no fighter has ever been fitted with such a powerful engine. But inventing new technology involves challenges and the F-35’s engine is no exception to this process. Improvements need to be made to deliver on key reliability and cost targets that will allow the F-35 to meet long-term objectives. Learn more about this process by hearing from key engine team members.
Listen to Part 1 here!
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Douglas Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj Gen (ret.) Larry “Stutz” Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Amanda Glode, Executive Director for F135 Sustainment, Pratt and Whitney
Guest: Tim “Picard” Forsythe, Lead Integrator for the Combat Air Forces, Pratt and Whitney
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Saturday Oct 16, 2021
Episode 44 - F-35: Getting Healthy or Hard Broke? Part 1
Saturday Oct 16, 2021
Saturday Oct 16, 2021
Episode 44 – F-35: Getting Healthy, or Hard Broke? Part 1
Episode Summary:
In episode 44 of the Aerospace Advantage podcast, F-35: Getting Healthy, or Hard Broke? Part 1 Mitchell Institute explores the status of America’s newest fighter with top experts in a 2-part series. You’ve heard it all year—the sky is falling when it comes to the F-35. Air Force leaders, Members of Congress, and a host of commentators have signaled serious concern with the program—especially when it comes to aircraft and engine reliability, plus its operational cost. There’s no shaping this one. Any reasonable person who is just reading newspaper headlines this year would wonder why we are still buying this plane. So, we figured it was time to dig into this issue and figure out what’s going on from people who really understand the details of the program the best, and frankly own much of the path to improved performance—the companies building the F-35. And this is not some infomercial to spin the status of the aircraft. Our goal here today is to no kidding talk about real issues, baseline problems for what they are, explore contributing factors, and talk about how we can make things better. America and its allies need the F-35 to work.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Douglas Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj Gen (ret.) Larry “Stutz” Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Audrey Brady, Vice President for F-35 Global Sustainment, Lockheed Martin
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Saturday Oct 09, 2021
Episode 43 - Nellis AFB Train Like You Fight: Preparing for Near-Peer Conflict
Saturday Oct 09, 2021
Saturday Oct 09, 2021
Episode 43 – Nellis AFB Train Like You Fight: Preparing for Near-Peer Conflict
Episode Summary:
In episode 43 of the Aerospace Advantage podcast, Nellis AFB Train Like You Fight: Preparing for Near-Peer Conflict, 57th Wing Commander Brig Gen Michael "Johnny Bravo" Drowley joins host John ”Slick” Baum and co-host Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula to discuss how the Weapons School, Red Flag, Aggressors, and other key facets of his team are developing and training the tactics, techniques, and procedures to address future threats, especially peer competitors like China and Russia. A key part of this comes down to integrating air, space, and cyber capabilities to leverage powerful effects at the right time and place. So, if you want to know where the Air Force is headed, you better understand what’s happening over the skies of Nellis AFB with the 57th.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Brig Gen Michael “Johnny Bravo” Drowley, 57th Wing Commander, USAF
Guest: Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Oct 02, 2021
Episode 42 - From 6th Gen Fighters to New Space Warfighting Concepts: The Rendezvous
Saturday Oct 02, 2021
Saturday Oct 02, 2021
Episode 42 – From 6th Gen Fighters to New Space Warfighting Concepts: The Rendezvous
Episode Summary:
In episode 42 of the Mitchell Institute’s Aerospace Advantage podcast, From 6th Gen Fighters to New Space Warfighting Concepts: The Rendezvous the team discusses the insights they garnered while hosting Air Force and Space Force leaders at AFA’s 2021 Air, Space, and Cyberspace Conference. Learn details about the future force concepts; specific insights regarding next-generation fighters, the B-21, and future munitions; warfighting concepts designed to deter China; and factors shaping tomorrow’s Air Force and Space Force.
If you want to watch all of the ASC Events discussed in the podcast you can find them here:
National Defense Strategy and Future Force
Space Acquisition to Lethality
The Need for DoD Cost Effectiveness Analysis
First Principles of Airpower: Getting to a Design that Wins
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj Gen (ret.) Larry “Stutz” Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Col (ret.) Mark “Gonzo” Gunzinger, Director for Future Concepts and Capabilities Assessments, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Chris Stone, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute Spacepower Advantage Research Center
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Saturday Sep 25, 2021
Episode 41 - Strategic Nuclear Deterrence: What are Americans Thinking?
Saturday Sep 25, 2021
Saturday Sep 25, 2021
Episode 41 – Strategic Nuclear Deterrence: What are Americans Thinking?
Episode Summary:
In episode 41 of the Mitchell Institute’s Aerospace Advantage podcast, Strategic Nuclear Deterrence: What are Americans Thinking? the team delves into the realm of public opinion regarding one of the most consequential aspects of U.S. national security. As a democracy, public sentiment has a key bearing on future U.S. national security decisions. It’s crucial to know where the public stands on this issue given that all segments of the triad are set for modernization. Mitchell Institute, in collaboration with Seven Letter Insight, conducted a poll to better understand these dynamics. The results were both surprising and illuminating. Join us for a conversation that extends past the standard talking points normally heard surrounding nuclear deterrence.
You can find the full poll and study here: Understanding American Voters’ Sentiment on Strategic Nuclear Deterrence
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Douglas Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj Gen (ret.) Larry “Stutz” Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Col (ret.) Mark “Gonzo” Gunzinger, Director of Future Concepts and Capabilities Assessments, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Matt George, Partner and Head of Research, Seven Letter Insight
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Saturday Sep 18, 2021
Episode 40 - The Royal Australian Air Force: Command Perspective
Saturday Sep 18, 2021
Saturday Sep 18, 2021
Episode 40 – The Royal Australian Air Force: Command Perspective
Episode Summary:
In episode 40 of the Mitchell Institute’s Aerospace Advantage podcast, The Royal Australian Air Force: Command Perspective, hear from Chief of the Air Force Air Marshal Mel Hupfeld as he discusses opportunities and challenges facing airpower and spacepower in the Pacific. Allies and partners are critical to mission success in today’s world, with the U.S.-Australian partnership especially crucial. Air Marshal Hupfeld discusses future operating concepts such as manned-unmanned teaming, current programs like the F-35, and important missions like airbase defense.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Air Marshal Mel Hupfeld, Chief of Air Force, The Royal Australian Air Force
Guest: Maj Gen (ret.) Larry “Stutz” Stutzriem, Director of Research, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Sep 11, 2021
Episode 39 - 9/11 20 Years Later: 3 Airmen Reflect
Saturday Sep 11, 2021
Saturday Sep 11, 2021
Episode 39 – 9/11 20 Years Later: 3 Airmen Reflect
Episode Summary:
In episode 39 of the Mitchell Institute's Aerospace Advantage podcast 9/11 20 Years Later: 3 Airmen Reflect, host John "Slick" Baum speaks to three individuals who found themselves thrust into crisis none could have imagined as they began their day. Gen John Jumper, USAF (ret) came to the Pentagon that Tuesday to serve his first full day as Chief of Staff of the Air Force. Lt Gen Dave Deptula, USAF (Ret) was working on the Quadrennial Defense Review in his Pentagon office two corridors away from where American Airlines Flight 77 impacted. Heather Penney was a young lieutenant who launched in her F-16 to provide air defense of the capital region and later escorted Air Force One back to Andrews Air Force Base later that evening. Memories of that day will stay with these airmen for the rest of their lives. Join us for their recollections of the day America was attacked.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Gen (ret.) John Jumper, 17th Chief of Staff of the US Air Force
Guest: Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Sep 04, 2021
Episode 38 - Adversary Insights: Understanding Chinese Airpower
Saturday Sep 04, 2021
Saturday Sep 04, 2021
Episode 38 – Adversary Insight: Understanding Chinese Airpower
Episode Summary:
In episode 38 of the Mitchell Institute's Aerospace Advantage podcast Adversary Insight: Understanding Chinese Airpower, host John "Slick" Baum is joined by Dr. Brendan Mulvaney and Ken Allen of Air University's China Aerospace Studies Institute (CASI), Cristina Garafola of RAND, and Daniel Rice of the Mitchell Institute to better understand the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). As Sun Tzu once said, "Know thy enemy and know yourself, and you need not fear the outcome of one hundred battles." This is the first in a series of episodes that will explore the China threat in multiple dimensions.
You can find Ken Allen and Cristina Garafola's book 70 Years of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force here.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest host: Daniel Rice, Senior Analyst, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Dr. Brendan Mulvaney, Director, China Aerospace Studies Institute
Guest: Ken Allen, Former Director of Research, China Aerospace Studies Institute
Guest: Cristina Garafola, Associate Policy Researcher, the RAND Corporation
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Saturday Aug 28, 2021
Episode 37 - Afghanistan Assessment: The Rendezvous
Saturday Aug 28, 2021
Saturday Aug 28, 2021
Episode 37 – Afghanistan Assessment: The Rendezvous
Episode Summary:
In episode 37 of the Aerospace Advantage, Afghanistan Assessment: The Rendezvous, John "Slick" Baum engages with the Mitchell Institute team to discuss the broader events surrounding America’s longest war. This is a tough one, with many members of the team having served in the theater, have worked on the war from the policy vantage, and have known people who’ve paid the ultimate price this conflict. To see the images of the collapse over the past few weeks has been exceedingly difficult. In the wake of this historic failure, it’s also important to look at what happened from a strategic perspective. The dedication to duty at the individual and unit level during this conflict was second to none, but the strategic decisions made over the past twenty years often fell short. It will take years to understand what happened and why, but this conversation marks the start of that assessment.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Gen (ret.) David Deptula, Dean, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Doug Birkey, Executive Director, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Guest: Daniel Rice, Research Analyst, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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Saturday Aug 21, 2021
Episode 36 - Speed is Life: Agile Software in Air Combat
Saturday Aug 21, 2021
Saturday Aug 21, 2021
Episode 36 – Speed is Life: Agile Software in Air Combat
Episode Summary:
In episode 36 of the Aerospace Advantage, Speed is Life: Agile Software in Air Combat, John Baum engages with Lt Col Mike Benitez, Director of Staff at the 53rd Wing; Dr. Jimmy “Rev” Jones, a fighter pilot-PhD; and Heather Penney of the Mitchell Institute to discuss a topic few of us consider—the “ones and zeros” of software that actually operate the jet. Fighter pilots have a saying that speed is life, and it applies to everything from the speed at which you enter a dogfight, fly a low-level ingress, shoot a missile, or exit a threat ring. And when trying to achieve a qualitative advantage over an adversary, we often think about how fast we can field a better jet, a more lethal missile, or a bigger bomb. But today, so many of our combat capabilities rely upon software. The advantage is in the algorithm. And software can change much faster than hardware – which means that the ability to change software to adapt to the ever-changing battlespace will be key to victory in future warfare.
Credits:
Host: Lt Col John “Slick” Baum, USAF, ret.
Producer: Daniel C. Rice
Executive Producer: Douglas Birkey
Guest: Lt Col Mike Benitez, Director of Staff at the 53rd Wing, USAF
Guest: Lt Col (ret.) Dr. Jimmy “Rev” Jones, DARPA, USAF
Guest: Maj (ret.) Heather “Lucky” Penney, Senior Fellow, The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
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